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Harvard STAP cell authors release new protocol, affirm belief in phenomenon [复制链接]

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发表于 2014-9-14 13:07 |只看该作者 |倒序浏览 |打印
Posted on September 13, 2014& S1 B9 J$ R3 E% v2 P, H9 \
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Even as everyone is going through the Science and Nature reviews of the rejected STAP papers this week, something else on the STAP front that happened last week.
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& n5 p* j. W" s# \1 cWhat’s up?
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Well, the STAP Nature papers are retracted, RIKEN CDB is going to be reorganized, RIKEN CDB has tried at least 22 times to make STAP cells and met with 22 failures, and senior STAP author Charles Vacanti in theory is now on sabbatical as of September 1st. Even, so Vacanti, and fellow STAP researcher Koji Kojima, released yet another new STAP protocol on September 3.
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The new protocol is intended to have a better chance to work for others.0 G+ \# R* c: C& T
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Their first bullet point is admission of an earlier misstep in saying it was “easy” to make STAP cells. Apparently they concede it’s actually kind of hard to make STAP cells.
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  y# V. a9 {# O9 oOne could ask where is the line between hard and impossible?  `+ S, o3 r' ?8 `

5 x3 U" Q, I0 N! V6 }) wTheir second point is to suggest that people try making STAP cells not just with low pH, but also adding in ATP.+ j; D* M2 ]& j5 R/ k1 q5 T: ~9 O2 r

; V( d% g& J( V9 h9 i- J; t- aThen they dive into detailing an actual protocol in a step-by-step fashion. They call it the most effective STAP protocol “du jour”.
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They close with a paragraph that I think contains a key typo (emphasis mine):9 r* u6 W3 n1 a, z; v

7 j8 Z( m- I0 {8 lWe have developed this most recent protocol to address concerns that to date, to our knowledge, other groups have been able to generate STAP cells using our previously published or posted protocols. While we are confident that the original protocols published, will work if performed with meticulous attention to detail, we have tried to develop a protocol based on new information, that should be much more effective in demonstrating a phenomenon in which we have absolute confidence.
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I think they meant in the first sentence to say “other groups have been unable to generate STAP cells…”* u( b; C% V/ b* P1 j) e! c1 r

# ?! O, f/ A0 PIn fact as far as I know, nobody has been able to make STAP cells in replication efforts including Obokata herself.
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Vacanti and Kojima conclude by saying that they still firmly believe in STAP.http://www.ipscell.com/tag/charles-vacanti/

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8 Y, w+ z7 E. _. A嘻嘻,小保方美国哈氟的导师Charles Vacanti隐藏了一件制作STAP的秘密武器,酸洗澡后需要用ATP解毒,可惜啊小人本儿一代英豪笹井芳树不幸酸中毒身亡,而小保方被美国人当做了抢使。
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8 J4 r$ b  q* f. V. D3 j3 U  u& M: m“In recent months, our lab decided tore-explore the utility of a low pH solution containing ATP in generating STAPcells,” Vacanti writes in the revised protocol. “We found that while pH aloneresulted in the generation of STAP cells, the use of a low pH solutioncontaining ATP, dramatically increased the efficacy of this conversion.  When this acidic ATP solution was used incombination with mechanical trituration of mature cells, the results were evenmore profound” (Charles Vacanti emphasis original).
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如果真的能重现,那笹井芳树可死得冤了。

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发表于 2014-9-15 16:50 |只看该作者
美国人就喜欢搞3部曲,终结者,X-man,星球大战,现在又来个STAP protocol,看来Charles Vacanti是要当干细胞领域的斯皮尔伯格啊。

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New details emerge on retracted STAP papers


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Posted on behalf of David Cyranoski.
, J# w) L7 K, l- L6 v8 W7 \New leaked e-mails showing the comments of referees for Science and Nature provide more insight into the saga of the STAP papers, which Nature published in January and retracted in July.
& ^% g) ?& L" y( a: X# RThe papers had promised new, simpler ways to produce stem cells by applying stress to cells taken from a patient’s tissues. But no other lab was able to reproduce the results, and experts pointed to several problems and inconsistencies in the papers. In April, first author Haruko Obokata of the RIKEN Center for Developmental Biology in Kobe, Japan, was declared guilty of scientific misconduct; the controversy later took a tragic turn as another co-author, Yoshiki Sasai, committed suicide on 5 August.' {! R9 b5 n: @& D4 ]3 `
An investigative report into the papers, released in May, revealed that a previous version of the work had been rejected by Nature, Cell and Science in 2012, before being resubmitted and accepted by Nature. (Nature’s news and comment team is editorially independent of its research editorial team.)# |: v& _5 f3 [
That report gave details from the Science referees who pointed out that one figure had been “reconstructed” in a way at odds with normal scientific practice and another one had a “suspiciously sharp” band (see ‘Misconduct verdict stands for Japanese stem-cell researcher‘).6 y) ?# t% O5 Z5 |" w
The blog Retraction Watch posted the full comments of three referees who reviewed the paper for Science on 10 September.
  j& T$ |5 i. x& E& W/ \# hThe reviews include a modicum of support, but overall the paper was panned by all three. Reviewer 2 notes, “Unfortunately, the paper presents only a superficial description of many critical aspects of the work,” before launching into 21 points that “need to be addressed”, ranging from seemingly sloppy mistakes to fundamental problems with the data.
. F& Y% G$ K- A* z1 r) gReviewer 3 noted, “If these results are repeatable, a paradigm of developmental biology would be changed.”
8 P& H/ ?% o8 A. _# }- N9 wThe manuscript itself is not available, so it is impossible to know exactly how similar the rejected Science manuscript is to the version that was eventually published in Nature., p( @' q+ m1 ]2 u( K  ^
When the committee initially brought the problems in the Science paper to her attention, Obokata defended herself by saying that the published Nature paper had main conclusions that differed from those in the rejected Science manuscript, and she refused to show the latter to the investigative committee., K3 M& L* t. \9 ?7 O, g8 \/ a
The cells in that manuscript were called stress-altered somatic cells (SAC) cells, whereas those in the paper that was eventually published bore the now-infamous name of the method: stimulus-triggered acquisition of pluripotency, or STAP. But judging from the reviewers’ comments, STAP cells and SAC cells seem to be very similar.4 U$ o" q# M9 N8 a4 L
Nature‘s research editors do not comment on their correspondence with authors, but on 11 September Science revealed new e-mails said to have been exchanged between Obokata and a Nature editor in April 2013. Those e-mails allegedly quote Nature‘s reviewers as having many reservations similar to those expressed by Science‘s reviewers, and unanimously recommending that the paper be rejected — which Nature did. The Nature editor did leave open the possibility of publishing the paper if the problems were solved. About 9 months later, in December, Nature accepted both papers.; m4 p4 J, r7 m3 f4 p8 R

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STAP co-author offers yet another recipe for stem cells

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12 Sep 2014 | 22:28 BST | Posted by David Cyranoski | Category: Lab life, stem cells
* [. S# C* g' b" CA senior co-author on controversial, and now retracted, stem cell papers has quietly posted new tips on how the research can be replicated.
% F5 H( Y3 u) _3 |7 h4 |  M: G+ CTwo papers claiming that stressing the body’s cell could produce embryonic-like stem cells, a process called stimulus triggered acquisition of pluripotency (STAP), were heralded when published in Nature in January but thrashed soon after when problematic images and figures were soon found.
  B) W6 z$ c4 M3 dThat might not have been so worrisome if the experiments, which the authors called easy to do, were replicated, but various external groups tried and failed to do so. Co-authors in Japan responded with a tip sheet. Soon after that, the lead author on the paper laying out the fundamental STAP technology, Charles Vacanti of the Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, Massachusetts, released his own, quite different, list of tips for reproducing STAP. Still no one succeeded in replicating the findings." u  b1 m9 s% ?- q$ |, m
Since April, Hitoshi Niwa, a well-respected mouse-stem-cell specialist at the RIKEN Center for Developmental Biology (CDB) in Kobe and a co-author on the papers, has been giving a focused, last-ditch effort to replicate the experiment; on 27 August, he reported no luck so far and suggested that light emission from dying cells, known as autofluorescence, might have been confused with fluorescent tags meant to signal conversion to the embryonic-like state.
8 p7 j! U6 V. e# p2 \$ x1 {During that period, the lead author on both papers, the CDB’s Haruko Obokata, was found guilty of misconduct and both papers were retracted. Obokata’s supervisor at the CDB, Yoshiki Sasai, committed suicide, and Vacanti stepped down as chairman of Brigham and Women’s department of anaesthesiology, perioperative and pain medicine. The CDB itself has halved in size." j' X5 k2 I) a" f
One might have thought that STAP was finished. But Vacanti is not one to give up so easily.
; p! Y" @% j# ^Even when he finally agreed to retract the papers, he maintained, in a post on his department’s website, that “there has been no information that cast doubt on the existence of the stimulus-triggered acquisition of pluripotency (STAP) cell phenomenon itself.” Vacanti said that he was confident that Niwa would “replicate the core STAP cell concept that my brother Martin and I originally hypothesized, and trust that it will be verified by the RIKEN as well as independently by others.”2 V9 l+ R- s9 X" S/ j
Now, in a note posted without fanfare on Vacanti’s department’s website and dated 3 September — one week after Niwa announced failure to replicate the findings — Vacanti has offered his second revision to the STAP protocol.8 W/ w2 y0 E1 y9 ?+ M: R, y
In comparison his first revised protocol in March (‘Refined protocol for generating STAP cells from mature somatic cells’), the new one (‘REVISED STAP CELL PROTOCOL. 09.03.14′) highlights the use of ATP in the solution, in combination with two stresses — exposure to acid and physical pressure on the cell membranes — that he used in the previous recipe. “In recent months, our lab decided to re-explore the utility of a low pH solution containing ATP in generating STAP cells,” Vacanti writes in the revised protocol. “We found that while pH alone resulted in the generation of STAP cells, the use of a low pH solution containing ATP, dramatically increased the efficacy of this conversion. When this acidic ATP solution was used in combination with mechanical trituration of mature cells, the results were even more profound” (emphasis original).
$ n) j+ @+ a2 @“We made a significant mistake in our original declaration that the protocol was ‘easy’ to repeat,” the protocol continues. “This was our belief at the time, but it turned out to be incorrect. Many of the steps described appear to be a function of the technique of the individual investigator. Consequently, the revised protocol below should increase the likelihood of success.”
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这人MD出生,晴子又是学化学的,两个没有生物学概念的奇葩凑了一对。这属于无耻的掩耳盗铃,缺乏最基本的学术道德。
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